From owner-provenance-challenge@ipaw.info Mon Nov 20 13:20:23 2006 received: from [127.0.0.1] (login.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102:230:48ff:fe23:58df]) (authenticated bits=0) by imap.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAKDJcaI013587; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:19:38 GMT message-id: <4561AB94.9030804@ecs.soton.ac.uk> date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:20:20 +0000 from: Luc Moreau user-agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) mime-version: 1.0 to: provenance-challenge@ipaw.info subject: [provenance-challenge] editorial: third draft content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed content-transfer-encoding: 7bit x-null-tag: 926fcabda103046d83e2d0731d5abbac x-ecs-mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean, Found to be clean x-ecs-mailscanner-information: Please contact the ISP for more information x-ecs-mailscanner-from: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk x-greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (crow.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f110:230:48ff:fe29:c3cd]); Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:19:52 +0000 (GMT) x-mailscanner-information: Please contact helpdesk@ecs.soton.ac.uk for more information x-mailscanner-from: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk x-spam-status: No sender: owner-provenance-challenge@ipaw.info precedence: bulk reply-to: provenance-challenge@ipaw.info All, (Please read!) The third draft of the challenge editorial is available from: http://twiki.ipaw.info/pub/Challenge/SpecialIssueIntroduction/challenge-editorial.pdf It's a near impossible to job to reconcile all the comments I have received. I have tried to do my best to include as many comments as I could. Following Bertram's suggestions three matrix rows have been redefined, for which I solicit your input (*deadline is Thursday 23*). - 1.6: we now make the distinction between run/partial/simulated - 2.3 explicitly indicates whether annotations are in scope and whether they are supported for the queries - 2.4 explicitly indicates whether time is supported for the queries, and whether it is required for representing provenance. Also, some entries are empty for 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, could you tell me how to fill the blanks. Cheers, Luc -- Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm From owner-provenance-challenge@ipaw.info Thu Nov 23 12:20:03 2006 received: from [127.0.0.1] (login.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102:230:48ff:fe23:58df]) (authenticated bits=0) by imap.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kANCJO44022809; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:19:24 GMT message-id: <456591FB.5090707@ecs.soton.ac.uk> date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:20:11 +0000 from: Luc Moreau user-agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) mime-version: 1.0 to: Luc Moreau , provenance-challenge@ipaw.info subject: [provenance-challenge] Re: editorial: third draft references: <4561AB94.9030804@ecs.soton.ac.uk> in-reply-to: <4561AB94.9030804@ecs.soton.ac.uk> content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed content-transfer-encoding: 7bit x-null-tag: 111cc50a3a60da107e0acb83bc034c5a x-ecs-mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean, Found to be clean x-ecs-mailscanner-information: Please contact the ISP for more information x-ecs-mailscanner-from: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk x-greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (crow.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f110:230:48ff:fe29:c3cd]); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:19:39 +0000 (GMT) x-mailscanner-information: Please contact helpdesk@ecs.soton.ac.uk for more information x-mailscanner-from: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk x-spam-status: No sender: owner-provenance-challenge@ipaw.info precedence: bulk reply-to: provenance-challenge@ipaw.info All, Just a kind reminder: I'd be grateful to receive your inputs for the new matrix entries today. Thanks, Luc Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm Luc Moreau wrote: > All, (Please read!) > > The third draft of the challenge editorial is available from: > http://twiki.ipaw.info/pub/Challenge/SpecialIssueIntroduction/challenge-editorial.pdf > > > It's a near impossible to job to reconcile all the comments I have > received. I have tried > to do my best to include as many comments as I could. > > Following Bertram's suggestions three matrix rows have been redefined, > for which I solicit > your input (*deadline is Thursday 23*). > - 1.6: we now make the distinction between run/partial/simulated > - 2.3 explicitly indicates whether annotations are in scope and > whether they are supported for the queries > - 2.4 explicitly indicates whether time is supported for the queries, > and whether it is required for representing provenance. > > Also, some entries are empty for 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, could you tell me > how to fill the blanks. > > Cheers, > Luc > From owner-provenance-challenge@ipaw.info Mon Nov 27 09:16:29 2006 received: from [127.0.0.1] (login.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102:230:48ff:fe23:58df]) (authenticated bits=0) by imap.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kAR9FnGg003352; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:15:49 GMT message-id: <456AACFC.4000001@ecs.soton.ac.uk> date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:16:44 +0000 from: Luc Moreau user-agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) mime-version: 1.0 to: Luciano Digiampietri cc: provenance-challenge@ipaw.info, Roger Barga subject: Re: [provenance-challenge] editorial: third draft references: <4561AB94.9030804@ecs.soton.ac.uk> in-reply-to: content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed content-transfer-encoding: 7bit x-null-tag: 17880566acec8de50d8568d6c1703444 x-ecs-mailscanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean, Found to be clean x-ecs-mailscanner-information: Please contact the ISP for more information x-ecs-mailscanner-from: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk x-greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (crow.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f110:230:48ff:fe29:c3cd]); Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:16:05 +0000 (GMT) x-mailscanner-information: Please contact helpdesk@ecs.soton.ac.uk for more information x-mailscanner-from: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk x-spam-status: No sender: owner-provenance-challenge@ipaw.info precedence: bulk reply-to: provenance-challenge@ipaw.info Thanks Luciano. What about time? It is supported clearly, but is it required in your provenance representation? Luc Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm Luciano Digiampietri wrote: > Hi Luc, > > I am working with Roger Barga in the Redux framework. > > We want to update two empty fields: > 2.3 Arbitrary annotations in scope/implemented => yes > 2.7 Abstraction mechanism => layered provenance model > > Thanks, > > -- > Luciano Antonio Digiampietri > Doutorando em Ciencia da Computacao, UNICAMP > http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~luciano > > > > On 11/20/06, *Luc Moreau* > wrote: > > All, (Please read!) > > The third draft of the challenge editorial is available from: > http://twiki.ipaw.info/pub/Challenge/SpecialIssueIntroduction/challenge-editorial.pdf > > > It's a near impossible to job to reconcile all the comments I have > received. I have tried > to do my best to include as many comments as I could. > > Following Bertram's suggestions three matrix rows have been redefined, > for which I solicit > your input (*deadline is Thursday 23*). > - 1.6: we now make the distinction between run/partial/simulated > - 2.3 explicitly indicates whether annotations are in scope and > whether they are supported for the queries > - 2.4 explicitly indicates whether time is supported for the queries, > and whether it is required for representing provenance. > > Also, some entries are empty for 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, could you tell me > how to fill the blanks. > > Cheers, > Luc > > -- > Professor Luc Moreau > Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 > University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 > Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk > > United Kingdom > http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm > >